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Best Practice Makes Perfect

A collaboration with Domino developers about how to do it and how to get it right in Domino

... to include the new features up to and including 8.0. If there are any things you want changed about the existing functionality, now would be an excellent time to mention it -- any flags we're missing or have mislabeled, design items that are incorrectly described, helpful information we could add, ...?
Explaining why you want the change never hurts either, since we'll be prioritizing these requests and might not get to all of them.

Andre Guirard | 15 August 2007 ET | Café Porch, Plymouth, MN, USA | Comments (12)


 Comments

1) HELL YEAH!!
Nathan T. Freeman | 8/16/2007 9:29:59 AM

That is all.

2) Don’t bother
Theo Heselmans | 8/16/2007 9:55:33 AM

I've not been using NotesPeek for ages. And since I bought scanEZ, I can not only read all (design)notes, but can edit them too. (sorry for the plug; I'm just a happy customer)

3) Topology Peek
Bob Balfe | 8/16/2007 10:13:43 AM

You might want to include the Topology Peek tool for the CA XML design note.

4) NotesPeek
Wild Bill | 8/16/2007 10:23:43 AM

It would be interesting to both see a text representation as well as a DXL representation of elements.. handy for debugging broken rich text..

Also - more support for the "object" and binary data types within notes - such as the outline navigator entry, etc..

Cheers!

---* Bill

5) What’s the plan?
Nathan T. Freeman | 8/16/2007 10:48:44 AM

...is it to do the same style of stand-alone tree-viewer, or perhaps incorporate something more robust?

One of the most useful built-in tools is for Domino Administrator, where you can do a "find note" on a db. Having a vector like that bring up NotesPeek, and present an whole related tree structure would be AWESOME.

Even better would be the ability to spawn into NotesPeek from the debugger.

Even better than that would be a way to trigger the NotesPeek interface by passing it a NotesDocument.Handle. Then we could see something like OpenLog have a button in it that says "Peek into this doc" when something generates an error.

That would rock my world. :)

6) There is a God!
Sean Burgess | 8/16/2007 11:44:59 AM

This is probably as good a piece of news as you can give a developer.

7) Thanks !
Jack Dausman | 8/16/2007 1:16:37 PM

Just terrific news !

8) Do it!
Mac Guidera | 8/16/2007 2:28:53 PM

As I mentions here (125) - { Link }

I'd like to see NotesPeek incorporated into Domino Designer. Why do I have to launch a separate application?

9) Does NotesPeek do anything the Free version of ScanEZ doesn’t?
Kevin Pettitt | 8/16/2007 4:00:54 PM

At this point I'm with Theo in the "don't bother" camp. Although I have a full version of Ytria's ScanEZ tool which allows me to see AND edit everything that what Notespeek shows (and probably more), there is a FREE "read-only" version of ScanEZ available as well. In other words, unless I'm missing something, Notespeek is completely irrelevant as there is a much better free tool that does the same thing and more. Ytria will of course need to ensure that ScanEZ is fully 8.0-enabled, but I'm quite certain they will.

So the first question is whether there actually is anything Notespeek can do now that ScanEZ can't? If so, what?

If the answer to the first question is indeed no, then the second question is whether any effort to update Notespeek is ambitious enough to add anything to make it relevant again? Perhaps something on Nathan's or Mac's wish list?

And if the answer to the second question is no then please put your energy into Designer on Eclipse or Mac or something.

10) Enable it as an option with Admin/Designer Install
Chris Whisonant | 8/17/2007 1:29:36 PM

That would be great! Glad to hear that you're revising it.

11) Edit ability
D. C. | 8/20/2007 6:54:32 PM

The ability to edit from Notes Peek.

12) Frequency
Erik Brooks | 8/27/2007 8:10:04 AM

If letting NotesPeek idle frees up more internal IBM resources to focus on other aspects of Designer then I say leave it as-is. ScanEZ just seems like a no-brainer for $750 for a 3-year license with support. And if *cough*IBM-gave-away-Designer-with-Notes*cough* then it's even moreso.

Maybe I'm missing something. How often are you guys using NotesPeek? And what exactly for?

I've used it twice in my entire life -- once just to try it out, and once at the request of Lotus Support to see if I had orphaned agent notes slowing down a database.

Now granted, I'm not using Rich Text much at all, and I could see where examining a CD record directly could be helpful. But what kinds of problems are you guys solving with it currently that the native tools don't offer?

13) Overview: Conflicts - Invalid Documents - Profiles
Heinrich Mueller | 9/12/2007 10:50:48 AM

Opening NotesPeek it would be great to get an overview/handle on conflicts, profiles and invalid documents (or field greater 32K = all you cannot see on first sight)

14) scanEZ can already do all you want.
Martin | 10/16/2007 9:02:34 AM

@Heinrich Mueller:

Ytria's scanEZ already can do all you ask for:

- provide overview on conflicts

- "Conflict Solver" to solve conflicts

- show (and edit) profile documents.

- "Documents Anlyser" to deal with all kind of corrupt/invalid documents

- documents bigger than 32K will be listed, so you can deal with them.

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