Hello everyone,
People often don't know that they can set the value of their client's Location settings via policies. To do so you must of the Desktop policy settings document. It can be a little hard to find though, since there are so many tabs and settings in the Desktop policy. The Custom Settings tab will be off the screen when you first open the settings document. So use the arrow controls show below to navigate over to the Custom Settings tab:
When you put the document in edit mode, you'll see the Edit List button:
Pressing that will allow to enter a name|value pair for a setting, like CatalogServer below:
Now there are two important things I want to point out here. There isn't a drop down list of what fields are on the form. So if you don't know what it is, the one way to figure it out is to open the Desktop policy settings form in Designer. There you will be able to see what fields correspond to which settings.
The second thing to be aware of is a very important point. Any setting you apply via this method will affect ALL Location documents. There is currently no way to specify that only a particular location gets a particular setting. Therefore if you want your end user's to have different settings for different locations DO NOT use this method. I've seen customers use this feature not knowing that it applies to all Locations and then they have trouble backing out.
So I hope that this post has shown you how to use this feature and also informed you of a behavior that you might not have known about.
Regards,
Mark
Mark Skurla | 21 January 2010 09:05:06 AM ET | | Comments (20)
Hi Mark,
is there a list of Item somewhere
I need to configure this parameters "Use operating system's time zone settings" for ALL location documents to YES
Thanks
Hello Guillaume,
There isn't a published list of items. You would examine the settings document, set the Desktop Settings form, in Designer to see what the field name is that corresponds to setting you want. I didn't see the setting "Use operating system's time zone settings", what type of policy settings document did you see that on?
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
I am having some issues to get the value of MailThreshold to be updated. I am not sure if it is because it is a numeric value or just doesn't work. Any help would appreciated !
Luis
Mark,
if you read my previous post - please send me an email to lguirigay at psclistens dot com.
I will also open a PMR next week
Hi Mark,
I have a Domino Server 8.5 with NAMES.NSF ODS of 51. I don't see the widgets tab inside the desktop policy document. Can you help.
hi Mark
there is something I really don't understand in your example. What is the benefit to set "CatalogServer" via custom settings/locations because you can set it directly in the Desktop Policy document, there is a field for it in the Basic tab.
On my side, I'm trying to set a parameter which has no entry/field in the Desktop Policy document.
I 'd like to change this field in user location / mail tab "Transfert outgoing mail if"
you wrote :
So if you don't know what it is, the one way to figure it out is to open the Desktop policy settings form in Designer. There you will be able to see what fields correspond to which settings
I didn't find any item for this option "Transfert outgoing mail if" in the Desktop policy settings form in Designer.
Then by openning a personal names.nsf in Designer, I found the parameter name was "MailThreshold"
So in the Desktop Policy document, in Custom Settings/ locations I added a new item named 'MailThreshold ' with value=1
and I have the same trouble as Luis Guirigay , it never updates.
so any help is really welcomed on this 2 questions
- the benefit to set CatalogServer via customs settings
- how to set "Transfert outgoing mail if" in user location
many thanks for your help
Hello Guillaume,
There is no special benefit to set CatalogServer via customs settings. It was just an example, though I admit in retrospect a poor one. I think it came from an actual customer situation, but I couldn't find the context from which it came in may mail file.
Regarding MailThreshold, I ran through the steps myself and it did work. If you're looking for the field itself in the document properties of the policy that comes down to the client, it will exist as LocAllMailThreshold. In the location document, it will be just MailThreshold.
So verify it first in the hidden view $Policies and look at your desktop policy. You should see LocAllMailThreshold=1. When I set the value in the policy document, I set it to: MailThreshold=1 (note: no quotes.)
To force the policy update, open the Policies view in the Domino Directory on the server and do a control-shift-F9. On the client in question, do a control-F5 which forces a lock out, then enter in your password to log back in. Connect to the home mail server for the logged in user. After the dynamic configuration client runs you'll see the message "Notes Configuration settings have been refreshed." Then examine the $Polices view and location document.
Regards,
Mark
Jason,
On the Design pane of your Domino Directories database properties, what does it say for template name and version?
Regards,
Mark
I finally found what was my mistake
in the Desktop Policy the new item named 'MailThreshold' was written with a blank at the end 'MailThreshold ', so that was not the same field and of course never applied to the user's location document.
Thanks for your help Mark.
"You would examine the settings document, set the Desktop Settings form, in Designer to see what the field name is that corresponds to setting you want"
Hi Mark,
Can you explain a little more detail how to find the field name? I opened the Desktop Settings form in the Designer but couldn't find the field names I want, or even CatalagServer field you put here as the example.
Hi Mike
On my side, I found the fied I was looking for 'MailThreshold' by openning the local names.nsf (pernames.ntf) in Designer.
Mark, I would like to know how the last tab 'Managed settings' in CustomSettings could be used for..
I 've just added a wiki there, to share with you how I managed to make it work for me. Was not so simple but Mark helped me a lot.
{ Link }
Hello Guillaume,
Sorry for the delay, had a crisis to deal with. The Managed Settings in Custom Settings is for Java Plugins used by the Standard client. As INI settings are to C code, Managed Settings are for Java plug-ins. These are much less common and you would probably only find out what one of those settings would be if directed by IBM documentation or support.
Regards,
Mark
Hello Mike,
For certain settings, the prefix LocAll is in front of the field name. So the field name in question is actually LocAllCatalogServer. But you would only put CatalogServer in the Custom settings tab. So if you're looking for a particular field, look in Designer for both versions, the name by itself, and then the name prefixed by LocAll.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
This a follow up of my previous post. The answer to your question are :
1.) template name = StdR4PublicAddressBook
2.) template version = 8.5.1
Thank you in advance
Hello Jason,
That is the correct version and ODS. I don't see any hide when formuals for that Tab. Do you see the wiget tab when you look at the Desktop policy in Designer? I've referred your question to one of the template developers to see if they might know what is going on.
Regards,
Mark
Hello Jason,
Would it be possible for you to send me your template? It would make it easier to try and resolve this issue.
Regards,
Mark
Hi mark,
thank you for the reply. I can see the widgets tab on the desktop policy setting thru the lotus designer client. can i have your email so I could send you the template .
thank you in advance.
Hi Mark,
I found the problem. The design property for the desktop , was mark with prohibit design refresh/replace. Once I remove it, I saw the widgets tab.
Sorry for the confusion cause. Thank you and more power
Hello Jason,
That's great! Yes, the prohibit flag would cause that. Glad that you're no longer blocked.
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
following your answer in #13
right now our Lotus 8.5 clients are running in basic mode (UseBasicNotes=1 in notes.ini). We managed Sametime awareness with these 3 settings
$STActiveToAwayEnabled=1
$STAwayToActiveEnabled=1
$STActiveToAwayTimeout=5
sent by a DesktopPolicy via customs settings. But this work only when the client is in Basic Mode.
Now we are planning to use the client in Standard mode, so we also need to be able to manage awareness. As there is no standard policy for this, how can it be managed by "Managed Settings"