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I recently ran across this article about combining Notes 8.5.1 and Sametime 8.5 into a single kit.  For later versions of Sametime, this article is the recommended procedure. If you take a quick peek, you'll notice they recommend radically different procedures.  The older method details how to manually merge the Sametime bits into the Notes installer.  The later article recommends chaining the install kits for Notes and Sametime (hey that script looks familiar!).  I was curious if the older method would work for later versions of Notes so I tried it out.   Here are the steps I followed:


The following steps work best if run from a command prompt:

1. Create a working area on a drive with approximately 2 gigs of free space. For example use "C:\ComboKit"
mkdir C:\ComboKit
cd C:\ComboKit

2. Download the required installation kits:
Obtain the Notes 8.5.3 Notes client only web kit.  
Obtain the Sametime 8.5.2 Addon installer.  

3. Copy the downloaded files to the root of your work area.

4.  Extract the required files from the downloads:
Run the Sametime 8.5.2 Addon installer.  At the following dialog, select the 2nd option and change the installation path to the work area created in step 1.         Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
   
After the kit is extracted, click "Cancel" on the "Choose Setup Language" dialog box to exit the installation.  This will end the installation process before the Sametime Addon installer is run, and will leave the extracted kit contents in the specified directory.
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
   

Run the Notes 8.5.3 installer.  At the following dialog, select the 2nd option and change the installation path to the work area created in step 1.
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
After the kit is extracted, click "Cancel" on the "Lotus Notes 8.5.3 - Install Wizard" dialog box to exit the installation.  This will end the installation process before the Lotus Notes installer is run, and will leave the extracted kit contents in the specified directory.
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit

5. Copy the required utilites.
In the directory where Notes 8.5.3 was extracted to there is a subdirectory named Utilities.  In this Utilities subdirectory there is a zip file named NotesCustomizationKit_1_0.zip,'
This archive contains a utility used to update the Notes installation kit.  It is called UpdateSiteMgr.exe. Extract it from the zip file and copy it to the root of the Notes extracted directory
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit

6. Remove Sametime 8.5.1 from Notes 8.5.3 Install kit
Run the utility UpdateSiteMgr with the command line options "-r Sametime".  This command will take a bit of time.
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
Time passes...
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit

7. Prepare the Sametime addon
Copy the existing Sametime addon update site to a new name: updateSite.zip
Copy the existing Sametime addon install manifest to a new name: install.xml
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit

UPDATE:  It appears I was using the 8.5.4 version of UpdateSiteMgr which has a fix for a bug where some Sametime features are left in the manifest.  
As Christian points out in the comments below, the following lines need to be manually removed from the manifest before the install kit will work correctly.  Or you can use the 8.5.2 TrimUpateSite tool.

Around line 249 of deploy\install.xml remove these lines:
           feature download-size="195" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.browser.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="163" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="286" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.chat.logging.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="254" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="339" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.core.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="354" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="582" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.im.community.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="550" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="408" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.messages.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="376" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="342" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.people.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="310" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="206" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.rtc.core.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="201" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="1358" id="com.ibm.collaboration.realtime.ui.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="1392" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>
           feature download-size="122" id="com.ibm.rcp.realtime.livenames.feature" match="greaterOrEqual" shared="true" size="90" url="jar:${installer.root}/updateSite.zip!/" version="8.5.1.20110812-1126"/>

8. Add the Sametime 8.5.2 to Notes 8.5.3
Run the UpdateSiteMgr utility to merge the Sametime update site to the Notes update site.
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
Verify the updateSite.zip and install manifest were modified:
Image:Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit

9.  Run the new combined installer.

Jeff Mitchell | 7 December 2011 07:43:58 AM ET | Littleton, MA | Comments (5)


 Comments

1) Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
Christian Henseler | 12/8/2011 7:22:20 AM

Great article, thanks again, Jeff :-)

Is this a supported configuration?

In the past, installing the addon using the addon's setup.exe was the only supported way.

Using UpdateSiteMgr -r Sametime (Step 6) does not remove the old Sametime features & plugins completely, I would use TrimUpdateSite 1.1 (provided until 8.5.2) to rip off the old Sametime embedded 8.0.2

2) Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
Jeff Mitchell | 12/16/2011 3:07:16 PM

Hey Christian,

Yes this is a supported configuration.

And you are once again, correct. The version of UpdateSiteMgr that ships in Notes 8.5.3 does leave some Sametime fragments lying around that prevent the resultant kit from properly installing. I've updated the entry with

information on how to remove them.

Thanks

~jeff

3) Combining Notes 8.5.3 and Sametime 8.5.2 into one kit
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