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Notes/Domino 6 and 7 Forum

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Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02 10:03 AM a Web browser
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Where is Domino going?

.NET and J2EE are competing technologies that are attempting to create/define the next enterprise development & deployment model.
IBM has decided that it'll be more profitable to merge Notes/Domino into the WebSphere world. This direction is clear from the road map and from the LotusSphere 2002 opening ceremony (yes, I was there).

Notes/Domino WILL become a collection of J2EE 'services'. They will, of course, work 'best' with WebSphere.

What problems do I see with this? At this point, WebSphere is an amazingly complicated set of products (a brand, not an individual product) that is seems too expensive for the SMB market I work in.

In contrast, .NET is much cheaper, easier to deploy, easier to find excellent development examples for, and the development environment is just beautiful.

Yes, we will get some nice improvements (and R6, er, v6 is certainly sweet), but overall direction is clear, and saddening.

[Summary]
I love Notes/Domino. It's the Swiss Army knife of development. I can make it do just about anything, easily. It turns on a dime. The object store is a dream - unlike other relational databases, it can reflect the ugly reality we live in where every record isn't identical. And R6, er v6 is a very nice improvement.

The reality is that IBM has too many products and it appears to have decided to focus on the homegrown WebSphere borg.

And WebSphere gives IBM a compelling story to tell large, enterprise-level customers.

At this point, it just doesn't sound as compelling to SMB shops that don't have legions of wirehead developers.

Up until now, IBM hasn't shown a lot of skill in designing and marketing it's products for SMB customers. Understand that Microsoft is ALL over designing & marketing it's products to SMB.

Is IBM feeding, but not growing Notes/Domino? It's hard to tell. What do you think?






REVISED: Where is Domino going? (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . Good question - however... (Bill4 Buchan 1.Oct.02)
. . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (Steven Gerhardt... 1.Oct.02)
. . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (Jon Johnston 1.Oct.02)
. . . . I find Domino/Notes ideal for SMB (Joris De Geyndt... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: I find Domino/Notes ideal for S... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . So what do you think... (Joris De Geyndt... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: So what do you think... (Placeh... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . *Stop trolling. It is getting old. ... (Ben Langhinrich... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . troll troll go away ... hide under ... (John Head 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: troll troll go away (if you clo... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . *It is OK to be worried, but this i... (Ben Langhinrich... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *It is OK to be worried, but th... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . sorry, why not? (Ed Brill 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . * LOL - sorry, why not? eom> (Les Szklanny 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: sorry, why not? (Craig Wiseman 2.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: troll troll go away ... hide un... (Luke Kolin 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . *I don't realize any such thing. eo... (Ben Langhinrich... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . RE: I don't realize any such thing.... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: I don't realize any such thing.... (benpoole 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: I don't realize any such thing.... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . OK, here you go (Ben Langhinrich... 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *I don't realize any such thing... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *I don't realize any such thing... (benpoole 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . *I don't realize any such thing. (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Man, I don't believe this... (Bill Ernest 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . For the record... re: Man, I don't ... (Nathan T. Freem... 2.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: *I don't realize any such thing... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . interesting... to me the IBM Softwa... (Alan Lepofsky 14.Oct.02)
. . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (Alan Gold 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (benpoole 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . If there is no Domino market out th... (Gerco Wolfswink... 2.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: REVISED: Where is Domino going?... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . Some general comments from Lotus. (Ed Brill 1.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: Some general comments from Lotu... (Craig Wiseman 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: Some general comments from Lotu... (Stephen Lister 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . RE: Some general comments from Lotu... (Rod Stauffer 1.Oct.02)
. . . . . . interesting... (Alan Lepofsky 14.Oct.02)
. . RE: You might ask: What's the point... (Craig Wiseman 2.Oct.02)
. . . . RE: You might ask: What's the point... (Victor Mascari 2.Oct.02)
. . . . I got the same impression from Lotu... (Ping Wang 4.Oct.02)





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