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RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgrades - Intermittent connection
John Aylmer 20.Aug.04 12:50 AM a Web browser
General 6.5 Windows 2000


Hi Victor,
Tried pinging the Domino server machine from the Notes client machine. Same as for pinging the router, the Notes client is hourglasses but the ping period stays the same, no packets lost.
There is one other point I remember. When Domino was installed, it would not route mail as it could not resolve DNS. Every other product on the server worked fine. I could even Telnet out a mail message.
I had to add registry entries as Domino did not recognise the existing Win2000 server DNS entries.
Refer Technotes: 178915, 190865
I am not saying this is relevent, just mentioning it.
Any thoughts?
John

Time to get up on my soapbox:
There does not seem to be a hardware error. Eventually you get as far as your tools allow but that may not give the answer.
Domino/Notes has evolved as a DOS product which now has a Window's wrapper. Various things interfer with its operation that do not affect any other product installed on a Window's machine:
1/ You can only have a maximum of 250 fonts installed on a workstation.
2/ Intolerant of the MTU packet size being larger than the router pipe size.
3/ Domino does not sometimes be able to resolve DNS requiring a special registry fudge.
4/ The problem described here with the initial connection.
While I realise that not everyone is having this last issue, a significant number of organisations are experience it, both with R5 and R6. For each one of the common issues described above, not everyone experiences them with every organisation, but they are still Notes only issues.
My suspicion is that Notes and Domino are still very DOS based with their own drivers and although they have Windows wrappers, they do not actually hook into Windows in a functional sense still relying on their unique drivers and ini files etc.
I don't really have a problem with that in concept as long as it works. But historically when it does not work we are told that it is not a Notes issue which would be true if we were still in a DOS world, but as every other installed product works fine in a Windows environment you have to wonder.




Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgrades ... (John Aylmer 13.Aug.04)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Julie Peck 13.Aug.04)
. . Response from IBM Support (Julie Peck 13.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Response from IBM Support (Julie Peck 13.Aug.04)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 13.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Julie Peck 13.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 13.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 16.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 18.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 19.Aug.04)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Well...maybe not... (Victor Mascari 23.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 23.Aug.04)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Just a thought (Victor Mascari 27.Aug.04)
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . More Info (Victor Mascari 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 31.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A change in behaviour (John Aylmer 31.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: A change in behaviour (John Aylmer 1.Sep.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . I HAVE THE SOLUTION (Tom Combs 11.Nov.05)
. . Another response from IBM support (Julie Peck 13.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (John Aylmer 16.Aug.04)
. . . . . . Yesterday's results (Julie Peck 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (Julie Peck 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (John Aylmer 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (John Aylmer 17.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (Julie Peck 18.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (John Aylmer 18.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Another response from IBM suppo... (Julie Peck 19.Aug.04)
. . I've now also got failing agents...... (Julie Peck 25.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (Victor Mascari 25.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (Julie Peck 26.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (Victor Mascari 26.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (Julie Peck 27.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (Victor Mascari 27.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (John Aylmer 27.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: I've now also got failing agent... (Julie Peck 30.Aug.04)
. . Notes Client timout after inactivit... (Christian Caste... 26.Aug.04)
. . . . More info: Network Packet trace (Christian Caste... 26.Aug.04)
. . . . PMR number: PMR 48855,044,866 eom> ... (Julie Peck 27.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (Richard P Hill 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (Victor Mascari 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (Richard P Hill 31.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (John Aylmer 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (Richard P Hill 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (John Aylmer 30.Aug.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Notes Client timout after inact... (Richard P Hill 31.Aug.04)
. . . . PMR 46173, 057,649 (Neil Wainwright... 1.Sep.04)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Tony E Dyb 26.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Christian Caste... 26.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Victor Mascari 27.Aug.04)
. . It has come to my attention... (Ed Brill 16.Sep.04)
. . . . RE: It has come to my attention... (Richard P Hill 10.Dec.04)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Richard P Hill 10.Dec.04)
. . . . Appreciation! - Show stopper for R5... (Simon M Huang 27.Jan.05)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Michael D Sovit... 24.Mar.05)
. . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Mark Huff 21.Jun.05)
. . . . Here is a similar fix for Domino 7.... (Jason C Michels... 17.Jun.09)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Paul C Wilson 13.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Julie Peck 13.Aug.04)
. . . . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 16.Aug.04)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 16.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Julie Peck 17.Aug.04)
. . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (John Aylmer 16.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Sue Peterson 2.Nov.04)
. . Link to Julie's previous post (John Aylmer 16.Aug.04)
. . . . RE: Link to Julie's previous post (Sue Peterson 2.Nov.04)
. . . . . . RE: Link to Julie's previous post (Jerome Lindecke... 24.Nov.04)
. . . . . . . . WE FIXED IT (Sue Peterson 14.Dec.04)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: WE FIXED IT (Jeremy Archer 15.Dec.04)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: WE FIXED IT (Jeremy Archer 15.Dec.04)
. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: WE FIXED IT (Joe Seaborne 10.Jan.05)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . WE FIXED IT - additional ?? (skip b brandon 12.Jan.05)
. . . . . . . . . . RE: WE FIXED IT (g gogglehead 28.Mar.05)
. . Re: Show stopper for R5 to R6 upgra... (Dave Dantowitz 4.Apr.05)

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