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IBM Lotus Notes/Domino 8.5 Forum (includes Lotus Notes Traveler)

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Subject: Venting
Feedback Type: Problem
Product Area: Notes Client
Technical Area: Functionality
Platform: ALL
Release: Beta 2
Reproducible: Always

I've been a notes admin and designer since 1995 and one of it's biggest supporters in numerous buy-outs, mergers, acquisitions and the inevitable "why don't we just move to exchange" discussions. But I really have to tell you that I think IBM has blown it. They had the market and then just stopped marketing Notes. Why? Every corporate hot button at the time IBM thumbed their noses and decided not to promote Notes, was based around email and collaboration. How did they miss that?

My biggest complaint with R8 and 8.5 is the times it takes waiting for simple tasks to complete. Like opening a mail file for the first time. It's like watching paint dry...I know there are other factors involved in all this, but when I have the required hardware specs and the end use does as well, try telling that to your CEO, or CIO, or even a sales rep.

And the designer for 8.5...is that seriously something IBM plans to roll out for production. Every time I click on a db to open in designer it needs to compile script? You need to double click anything in the left hand side navigation pane? And please tell me why the agent for out office is scheduled and not defaulted to when new mail arrives? I'm curious as to the reasoning behind that.

Also, can you please tell me why I cannot log into our Sametime server using the 8.5 client?

IBM...you are dropping the ball. Or have already dropped it. You could have stepped on Microsoft's trachea, but you sat by and did nothing. This was your market to win and to win going away...You've disappointed some of your most loyal customers and that's what hurts the most.


Feedback number WEBB7MPQ29 created by Steven R Castellion on 12/26/2008

Status: Open
Comments:

Venting (Steven R Castel... 26.Dec.08)
. . A Few More Things... (Steven R Castel... 27.Dec.08)
. . . . You've got that right (Brian M. Walker... 27.Dec.08)
. . . . . . Thank you... (Steven R Castel... 27.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Yep, sad but true (Brian M. Walker... 28.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . Not sure whether my response will b... (Ed Brill 28.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Thanks, but... (Steven R Castel... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Is that 8.0.2? (Ed Brill 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yes... (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Why Notes market share is slipping (Ky An Ha 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . I would strongly disagree with the ... (Ed Brill 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . But... (Steven R Castel... 5.Jan.09)
. . . . Registration issues (David Schneck 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . There isn't anything that gets logg... (Steven R Castel... 5.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Client local log.nsf? (David Schneck 7.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . You're correct.... (Steven R Castel... 10.Jan.09)
. . complains (Pablo vonArx 30.Dec.08)
. . . . Trust Me... (Steven R Castel... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . The times you are reporting are muc... (Doug Conmy 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Thank you... (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . More Information... (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Preview Pane (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . On a preview where the design eleme... (Doug Conmy 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . This is a simple opening of the mai... (Steven R Castel... 5.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . I'm more than willing to work with ... (Doug Conmy 6.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Thank you, Doug... (Steven R Castel... 7.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Timing on a Mac OS X system (Tim Rand 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . Add CONSOLE_LOG_ENABLED=1 to the pr... (Doug Conmy 2.Jan.09)
. . . . . . Your numbers are higher than what I... (Alexandr Kassab... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Ok, but what? (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . Re: Trust Me (Tim Rand 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . We use DNS entries... (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . Designer (Phillipe Loher 30.Dec.08)
. . . . re: Designer (Steven R Castel... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . there have been many improvements s... (Maureen Leland 1.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Maybe I should clarify... (Steven R Castel... 5.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . And when is the post beta2 release ... (Steven R Castel... 5.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . 8.5 (no beta) will be available bef... (Bernfried Geige... 6.Jan.09)
. . . . Return Question (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . benefits (Maureen Leland 1.Jan.09)
. . . . Sorry... (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . next week (Maureen Leland 1.Jan.09)
. . 2 quick answers (Almar Diehl 28.Dec.08)
. . . . I'm not sure what you mean... (Steven R Castel... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . No, you are using the OoO agent, no... (Almar Diehl 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . So Can You Expand On That Then? (Steven R Castel... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . Sure (Almar Diehl 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Perfect (Steven R Castel... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Requirement for template? (Tim Rand 31.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Not without errors... (Steven R Castel... 31.Dec.08)
. . . . One other thing... (Steven R Castel... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . Well, Well (Heini Schwammer... 29.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . Unfortunately... (Steven R Castel... 30.Dec.08)
. . . . . . . . . . There's a new OOO functionality in ... (Tarcio Constant... 31.Dec.08)
. . Eclipse client slowness, and Sameti... (Pat D Brennan 6.Jan.09)
. . . . Sametime Issue Resolved.... (Steven R Castel... 7.Jan.09)




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