The speeds returned by 8.5.1 are a disgrace. Opening a local database in designer can take a minute. Have a cup of coffee while designer decides to run "Initializing Java Tooling" after every action you try to perform. Whatever you do, DO NOT try copying and pasting a view.
Take a good, usable application and bring it to it's knees.
Well done IBM.
Feedback response number WEBB85EJT5 created by Adrian Stewart on 05/13/2010