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Mar 1, 2016, 4:44 AM
4 Posts

Can I add any 9 features to 8.5.2 client?

  • Category: Other Domino Designer Tooling
  • Platform: Windows
  • Release: 8.5.2
  • Role: Developer
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  • Replies: 6

Hi,


Where I work release 8.5.2 is the only client version permitted. Upgrading the client is not an option for me, despite all my efforts to get it.

...however there are 9.0.1 servers available and I'd like to be able to take advantage of some of the new controls etc available on there.

Is there any way I can make those controls available in my client?

 

Thanks.

Mar 1, 2016, 7:37 PM
453 Posts
I'm not an Admin but...

If you are looking to run a 9.0.1 application and feature in an 8.5.2 client running XPinc (XPages in Notes Client) I don't think that will work. Of course they could run the 9.0.1 application in a web browser and not worry about the client version.I have run a few tests and found that generally the web client executes as fast or faster than XPinc. I know that I had some issues running 9.0 in 8.5.3 clients but I can't remember exactly what they were. I don't understand why your management would lock you into 8.5.2 because there have been so many advances in both the ckient and server through 8.5.3 and now 9.0.1. If the issue is the cost of rolling it out over all the clients then just go to XPages in the web browser. Most of what I have seen has been developing XPages and just using the browser for the client.

But every siyuation is different.

Mar 2, 2016, 4:50 AM
4 Posts
Thanks...


The reason for the lockdown  (and already a project that is massive waste of time and money) is they want to switch away from Notes but in the meantime there is still work to be done building apps that can be served up to the browser.
I was hoping there would be a way to make use of the controls and themes that are available on the 9. servers, some way of adding them to the palette in my 8.5.2 designer so I could build better applications, faster.

Mar 2, 2016, 10:17 AM
453 Posts
I have seen this with several of my 'former' clients

It generally started with moving from Notes Mail to OutLook, then the questions arise why not do everything in M$ product? That will surely be easier! Sure it will. But by the time they find out that it is big time more expensive they are so far down that road that they can't admit it. I know from comments by others that are using the N/D designer as their primary development tool because it is really database agnostic. I have not done much work on connection to foreign databases but from what I have seen and done it is pretty straight forward. In a couple of cases my clients have dropped the the Notes clients and are using web clients to access all of their XPages application.

If I were you I would see if you could create a test case XPages application and access it via a web client.

 

Mar 4, 2016, 4:50 AM
4 Posts
we do have xpages applications in production but...

all built with basic controls that just come with 8.5.2.

I just hoped to find a way to get hold of the controls and themes that are on the 9.0.1 servers and add them into my 8.5.2 designer so I could build better xpages that work nicely on 9.. servers.

I just don't know where to begin.

Mar 8, 2016, 4:46 PM
589 Posts
umm

Not that I know of.  But if your servers are 9.0.1 then you're just talking about needing your client upgraded.  You don't need to upgrade everybody if you're just using it to design XPages apps.

8.5.2 came out August 2010.  If they are willing to upgrade the servers, but force you to use a very buggy and limited 8.5.2 Designer client, then they're NUTS!  And if you want please tell them I said so.  that's just crazy.  At least 8.5.3 was stable and included the extensibility pieces.  But to upgrade one person to the latest designer client to take advantage of the current servers should just be common sense.

Sigh...

 

good luck!!!

Dave

Mar 14, 2016, 1:09 PM
4 Posts
agreed..

Yes, it is crazy but this is the situation we're in. There are other devs in the group who want to upgrade but are blocked by the rules.

The openntf extensions used to have to be installed on both client and server. I don't suppose the IBM supplied versions can be acquired from the 9 server and downloaded to the client somehow can they?

 

 

 


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